{"id":12880,"date":"2024-12-28T17:48:16","date_gmt":"2024-12-29T00:48:16","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/mattfife.com\/?p=12880"},"modified":"2024-12-22T19:21:16","modified_gmt":"2024-12-23T02:21:16","slug":"hens333-goes-down-the-twitch-streamer-rabbit-hole","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mattfife.com\/?p=12880","title":{"rendered":"Hens333 goes down the Twitch streamer rabbit hole"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>The Dead by Daylight Twitch streamer <a href=\"https:\/\/www.twitch.tv\/hens333\" data-type=\"link\" data-id=\"https:\/\/www.twitch.tv\/hens333\">Hens333<\/a> was curious about a streamer&#8217;s meteoric rise, and couldn&#8217;t figure it out. The streamer didn&#8217;t appear to have any decent content, didn&#8217;t seem very big in the community &#8211; but was getting massive viewer counts. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"640\" height=\"334\" data-attachment-id=\"12881\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/mattfife.com\/?attachment_id=12881\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mattfife.com\/wp-content\/themes\/mattTheme\/headerimgs\/2024\/12\/twitchgraph2.png?fit=1557%2C812&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1557,812\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"twitchgraph2\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mattfife.com\/wp-content\/themes\/mattTheme\/headerimgs\/2024\/12\/twitchgraph2.png?fit=640%2C334&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mattfife.com\/wp-content\/themes\/mattTheme\/headerimgs\/2024\/12\/twitchgraph2.png?resize=640%2C334&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12881\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mattfife.com\/wp-content\/themes\/mattTheme\/headerimgs\/2024\/12\/twitchgraph2.png?resize=1024%2C534&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mattfife.com\/wp-content\/themes\/mattTheme\/headerimgs\/2024\/12\/twitchgraph2.png?resize=300%2C156&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mattfife.com\/wp-content\/themes\/mattTheme\/headerimgs\/2024\/12\/twitchgraph2.png?resize=768%2C401&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mattfife.com\/wp-content\/themes\/mattTheme\/headerimgs\/2024\/12\/twitchgraph2.png?resize=1536%2C801&amp;ssl=1 1536w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mattfife.com\/wp-content\/themes\/mattTheme\/headerimgs\/2024\/12\/twitchgraph2.png?resize=518%2C270&amp;ssl=1 518w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mattfife.com\/wp-content\/themes\/mattTheme\/headerimgs\/2024\/12\/twitchgraph2.png?w=1557&amp;ssl=1 1557w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mattfife.com\/wp-content\/themes\/mattTheme\/headerimgs\/2024\/12\/twitchgraph2.png?w=1280&amp;ssl=1 1280w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>So, he dug into it and then went on a massive data deep-dive and believes he found what the internet dreads &#8211; that it could likely be a whole empire of fake views and purchased popularity &#8211; all to get lucrative sponsorships.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Check out his epic analysis here: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.twitch.tv\/videos\/2333312919?t=00h46m30s\">https:\/\/www.twitch.tv\/videos\/2333312919?t=00h46m30s<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>If <a href=\"https:\/\/www.twitch.tv\/hens333\" data-type=\"link\" data-id=\"https:\/\/www.twitch.tv\/hens333\">Hens333<\/a> is right, then the streamer is simply buying views via <a href=\"https:\/\/viewerboss.com\/try-for-free\" data-type=\"link\" data-id=\"https:\/\/viewerboss.com\/try-for-free\">streaming viewer bots<\/a> (<a href=\"https:\/\/viewbots.com\/\" data-type=\"link\" data-id=\"https:\/\/viewbots.com\/\">here too<\/a> and countless other similar bot services) that give his videos very suspiciously consistent and high viewer counts, buying twitter retweets, possibly even <a href=\"https:\/\/www.badenbower.com\/how-to-get-an-article-written-about-you\" data-type=\"link\" data-id=\"https:\/\/www.badenbower.com\/how-to-get-an-article-written-about-you\">paying to have articles written about him<\/a>, and then has little gambling minigames which are likely only won by the bot accounts. The goal: <a href=\"https:\/\/sullygnome.com\/game\/Dead_by_Daylight\/watched\" data-type=\"link\" data-id=\"https:\/\/sullygnome.com\/game\/Dead_by_Daylight\/watched\">get yourself rank in the top 30 most watched Dead by Daylight streamers<\/a> on <a href=\"https:\/\/sullygnome.com\/\" data-type=\"link\" data-id=\"https:\/\/sullygnome.com\/\">SullyGnome<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Doing a little napkin math, he is likely spending $1000-2000 per month for bot accounts based on his viewer counts. Why would you do this? Ego?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A quick look at his Twitch page clears it all up. Sponsorships. His Twitch page is littered with dozens and dozens of sponsors. <\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-large is-resized\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"640\" height=\"423\" data-attachment-id=\"12882\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/mattfife.com\/?attachment_id=12882\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mattfife.com\/wp-content\/themes\/mattTheme\/headerimgs\/2024\/12\/twitchgraph3.png?fit=2116%2C1398&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"2116,1398\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"twitchgraph3\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mattfife.com\/wp-content\/themes\/mattTheme\/headerimgs\/2024\/12\/twitchgraph3.png?fit=640%2C423&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mattfife.com\/wp-content\/themes\/mattTheme\/headerimgs\/2024\/12\/twitchgraph3.png?resize=640%2C423&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12882\" style=\"width:559px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mattfife.com\/wp-content\/themes\/mattTheme\/headerimgs\/2024\/12\/twitchgraph3.png?resize=1024%2C677&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mattfife.com\/wp-content\/themes\/mattTheme\/headerimgs\/2024\/12\/twitchgraph3.png?resize=300%2C198&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mattfife.com\/wp-content\/themes\/mattTheme\/headerimgs\/2024\/12\/twitchgraph3.png?resize=768%2C507&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mattfife.com\/wp-content\/themes\/mattTheme\/headerimgs\/2024\/12\/twitchgraph3.png?resize=1536%2C1015&amp;ssl=1 1536w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mattfife.com\/wp-content\/themes\/mattTheme\/headerimgs\/2024\/12\/twitchgraph3.png?resize=2048%2C1353&amp;ssl=1 2048w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mattfife.com\/wp-content\/themes\/mattTheme\/headerimgs\/2024\/12\/twitchgraph3.png?resize=409%2C270&amp;ssl=1 409w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mattfife.com\/wp-content\/themes\/mattTheme\/headerimgs\/2024\/12\/twitchgraph3.png?w=1280&amp;ssl=1 1280w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mattfife.com\/wp-content\/themes\/mattTheme\/headerimgs\/2024\/12\/twitchgraph3.png?w=1920&amp;ssl=1 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p>If all this is true, then it means he might be making $10,000&#8217;s per month on sponsors with only a $1000-$2000 per month outlay. Some note he isn&#8217;t even playing the games many times &#8211; just showing replays of previous sessions. One more highly suspicious data point is that <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/@RealzBlueWater\/videos\" data-type=\"link\" data-id=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/@RealzBlueWater\/videos\">just about ALL his youtube videos have less than 50 views<\/a>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"640\" height=\"403\" data-attachment-id=\"12883\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/mattfife.com\/?attachment_id=12883\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mattfife.com\/wp-content\/themes\/mattTheme\/headerimgs\/2024\/12\/twitchgraph4.png?fit=1297%2C817&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1297,817\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"twitchgraph4\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mattfife.com\/wp-content\/themes\/mattTheme\/headerimgs\/2024\/12\/twitchgraph4.png?fit=640%2C403&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mattfife.com\/wp-content\/themes\/mattTheme\/headerimgs\/2024\/12\/twitchgraph4.png?resize=640%2C403&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12883\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mattfife.com\/wp-content\/themes\/mattTheme\/headerimgs\/2024\/12\/twitchgraph4.png?resize=1024%2C645&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mattfife.com\/wp-content\/themes\/mattTheme\/headerimgs\/2024\/12\/twitchgraph4.png?resize=300%2C189&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mattfife.com\/wp-content\/themes\/mattTheme\/headerimgs\/2024\/12\/twitchgraph4.png?resize=768%2C484&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mattfife.com\/wp-content\/themes\/mattTheme\/headerimgs\/2024\/12\/twitchgraph4.png?resize=429%2C270&amp;ssl=1 429w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mattfife.com\/wp-content\/themes\/mattTheme\/headerimgs\/2024\/12\/twitchgraph4.png?w=1297&amp;ssl=1 1297w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>The streamer in question is <a href=\"https:\/\/www.twitch.tv\/realzbluewater\" data-type=\"link\" data-id=\"https:\/\/www.twitch.tv\/realzbluewater\">realzbluewater<\/a>, and if he is doing this, he is likely committing criminal fraud by misrepresenting his actual viewer count to advertisers. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This could come with serious legal repercussions as well as criminal charges. He wouldn&#8217;t be the first. <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Charlie_Javice\" data-type=\"link\" data-id=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Charlie_Javice\">Charlie Javice<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/abcnews.go.com\/US\/startup-ceo-accused-175m-fraud-denying-made-success\/story?id=98415514\" data-type=\"link\" data-id=\"https:\/\/abcnews.go.com\/US\/startup-ceo-accused-175m-fraud-denying-made-success\/story?id=98415514\">is now up on charges that she deceived JP Morgan<\/a> about the number of actual users of her college financial planning company called Frank. They alleged that Javice even paid a&nbsp;data-science&nbsp;professor $18,000 for a list of more than four million fake student names. She claims JP Morgan simply didn&#8217;t do their due diligence. Right now, she&#8217;s up on Federal charges for securities fraud, wire fraud, bank fraud, and conspiracy.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I personally believe there is a lot of the kind of fraud Javice is accused of. It&#8217;s been pretty much rampant by people on Forbes 30 under 30 list (more comically being called <a href=\"https:\/\/mattfife.com\/?p=9369\" data-type=\"link\" data-id=\"https:\/\/mattfife.com\/?p=9369\">Forbes 30 doing 30 list<\/a>). It&#8217;s also ridiculously easy. Purchasing views and reposts for any social media account is just a google click away. You can buy thousands of re-Tweets, Twitch views, Youtube views, fake comments, Instagram followers, Facebook upvotes &#8211; and just about anything else for just a little bit of money. Just google it and you&#8217;ll find tons of services that do all these things for under $50.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I sure hope realzbluewater is legit. If he&#8217;s not, he&#8217;s likely committing criminal fraud and could be sued by his sponsors and face jail time. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Twitch is likely not cracking down for 3 reasons. Firstly, they get ad revenue if the views or real or not. Secondly, even if they detect this, they can&#8217;t ban streamers when they detect bots swarming a channel or others could use those kinds of attacks to get streamers taken down or banned. Finally, the increase of numbers helps Twitch too. <a href=\"https:\/\/gamerant.com\/twitch-still-not-profitable-amazon-2024\/\" data-type=\"link\" data-id=\"https:\/\/gamerant.com\/twitch-still-not-profitable-amazon-2024\/\">Twitch has been struggling financially<\/a> and definitely could use all the viewers they can get &#8211; even if the majority of them are bots.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Just one more likely datapoint for the <a href=\"https:\/\/mattfife.com\/?p=12447\" data-type=\"link\" data-id=\"https:\/\/mattfife.com\/?p=12447\">Dead Internet Theory<\/a>. If this kind of fraud is becoming more rampant (and I believe it is), there is going to be a reckoning. Advertisers are going to start asking questions about fake numbers and realize they&#8217;re getting ripped off. When the reckoning starts, people better have long, clean records when the investigations begins &#8211; because the hosting sites will blame the streamers, and the streamers will likely be thrown under the bus.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Note to self: great business idea. Start a company that does user\/data verification and fraud analysis services. When the day comes, everyone will want you.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Links:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.twitch.tv\/hens333\" data-type=\"link\" data-id=\"https:\/\/www.twitch.tv\/hens333\">Hens333<\/a> <\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/sullygnome.com\/\" data-type=\"link\" data-id=\"https:\/\/sullygnome.com\/\">SullyGnome<\/a> streamer rankings for games, genres, etc. Advertisers love to come here to find out who to sponsor.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/twitchtracker.com\/\">https:\/\/twitchtracker.com\/<\/a> &#8211; tracker that gives all kinds of information about streamers<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The Dead by Daylight Twitch streamer Hens333 was curious about a streamer&#8217;s meteoric rise, and couldn&#8217;t figure it out. The streamer didn&#8217;t appear to have any decent content, didn&#8217;t seem very big in the community &#8211; but was getting massive viewer counts. So, he dug into it and then went on a massive data deep-dive and believes he found what the internet dreads &#8211; that it could likely be a whole empire of fake views and purchased popularity &#8211; all&#8230;<\/p>\n<p class=\"read-more\"><a class=\"btn btn-default\" href=\"https:\/\/mattfife.com\/?p=12880\"> Read More<span class=\"screen-reader-text\">  Read More<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[26,9],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-12880","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-ideas","category-cool"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p4WECr-3lK","jetpack-related-posts":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/mattfife.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/12880","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/mattfife.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/mattfife.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mattfife.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mattfife.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=12880"}],"version-history":[{"count":6,"href":"https:\/\/mattfife.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/12880\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":12891,"href":"https:\/\/mattfife.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/12880\/revisions\/12891"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/mattfife.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=12880"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mattfife.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=12880"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mattfife.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=12880"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}