{"id":241,"date":"2008-10-04T15:47:27","date_gmt":"2008-10-04T19:47:27","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/mattfife.net\/wordpress\/?p=241"},"modified":"2008-10-04T15:47:27","modified_gmt":"2008-10-04T19:47:27","slug":"were-just-at-the-tip-of-the-iceberg-congress-passes-the-package","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mattfife.com\/?p=241","title":{"rendered":"We&#8217;re just at the tip of the iceberg &#8211; Congress passes the package"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Folks &#8211; you should be pissed off &#8211; we just got shafted in the largest hosing you will see in your lifetime &#8211; and it isn&#8217;t even at the worst yet.<\/p>\n<p>So, the House votes down the no accountability, no court oversight giving of 700 billion dollars to an acting fed chairman (who&#8217;s really just a Goldman-Sacks executive) &#8211; the bill goes to the senate who keeps it roughly the same, fills it with pork, passes it, then gives it to congress to pass &#8211; and they do.\u00a0 They claim they had no other options.\u00a0 I call complete bullsh*t.\u00a0 There was never a proposal for a different plan.\u00a0 It was Fed chairman&#8217;s way or the highway.\u00a0 There were plenty of other economists who said there were way better bailout plans out there, ones that would keep the burden on these companies, and not cost us taxpayers even 1\/2 the money.\u00a0 Ones that might actually work.\u00a0 Yet the fear mongering that went on in the house left most of them saying, &#8220;We don&#8217;t have any other options&#8221;.\u00a0 Yes. You. Did.\u00a0 You just choose not to explore them. You did a 9\/11 all over again congress.\u00a0 You knee-jerk reacted to a war in Iraq when the people screamed to slow down and figure out what happened.\u00a0 We just got our financial Iraq, because it will do NOTHING to stop the very things they were afraid of such as:<\/p>\n<p>Predictions:<br \/>\n<u>1. Stock market will just keep declining.\u00a0<\/u> Nothing in the bailout will stop stocks from deflating.\u00a0 Companies are looking to re-entrench, and hunker down for tough times.\u00a0 That means folks will not be putting money into the markets since no company is looking at growth for the next year or so.\u00a0 That means the markets at best would be flat.\u00a0 And with stocks driven by speculation so much right now &#8211; everyone is running for security.\u00a0 Not that congress probably should have done anything anyway.\u00a0 It was probably time for a good market correction.<br \/>\nPrediction: markets will continue a steep decline for the next month or so, with slower flat to down trends for the rest of the year (at least).\u00a0 The markets won&#8217;t recover in any meaningful way for a year or two.<br \/>\nBecause of this, you&#8217;re going to find that more people were in more risky ventures with your pension funds than should have.\u00a0 Pensions and other retirement accounts are going to go bankrupt because of poor management and over-investment in declining stocks.\u00a0 Our financial &#8216;experts&#8217; have been playing fast and loose for years &#8211; and seem to have forgotten all the rules of exposure they were supposed to be following.\u00a0 Wait for it.<\/p>\n<p>2. <u>The downward housing spiral is going to continue.<\/u>\u00a0 The debt holders to these bad loans likely have not been forthcoming with how bad these debts really are.\u00a0 One of these managers said that if they just got liquidity, they&#8217;d be all able to all sell at face value.\u00a0 So, those loans for $300,000 homes that are now worth $150,000 will just magically go back up to double (or more) in value?\u00a0 If this is the extent of the lying they are telling congress &#8211; and congress believed them &#8211; then we&#8217;re all f*cked.<br \/>\nHere&#8217;s a graph of housing prices adjusted for inflation over time.\u00a0 Does it look natural to you?\u00a0 What level would you guess is more natural?\u00a0 Guess what the market will do? (yes, this is simplistic, but it shows the extent we have been stretching and inflating the housing market lately)<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mattfife.net\/special\/united_states_1890-2007.png\" target=\"_blank\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mattfife.net\/special\/united_states_1890-2007.png?w=200\"  \/><\/a><br \/>\nAs home prices continue their declines, more owners will continue to default since it&#8217;s better for the average person to take the default and 8 years of bad credit than pay $150,000 in value you&#8217;ll never see again .\u00a0 The BEST we could hope for is that folks stay in ridiculous upside-down loans &#8211; which I just find hard to believe.\u00a0 Even if we could do this, folks will be paying for years and years on homes that are not worth what they are paying.\u00a0 Everything will grind to a halt for years while we just pour money down holes and sit saddle with debt.\u00a0 <strong>Debt and greed that WE, my fellow Americans, signed with our own hands.<\/strong>\u00a0 This time the corporations just let us be stupid.\u00a0 Yep, they hold 50% of the blame because they were supposed to be doing the right things &#8211; but we hold solidly the other 50% for not doing OUR homework.\u00a0 None of this was rocket-science.\u00a0 It&#8217;s been in self-help books and homebuying guides for years.<\/p>\n<p>Prediction: The value of houses in most places will continue to decline by 1-5% every month for the rest of the year and will stay flat for years.\u00a0 Here&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/www2.standardandpoors.com\/portal\/site\/sp\/en\/us\/page.topic\/indices_csmahp\/2,3,4,0,0,0,0,0,0,2,1,0,0,0,0,0.html\" target=\"_blank\">the data for the current situation from S&amp;P<\/a> or already <a href=\"http:\/\/money.cnn.com\/2008\/07\/28\/real_estate\/another_home_price_dip\/index.htm\" target=\"_blank\">charted for you<\/a>. Obviously some locations will be more than others.\u00a0 But they will all continue to keep declining &#8211; which will continue to encourage people to default and walk away from $100,000s worth of bad debt.\u00a0 And there is absolutely no reason for folks to buy a house right now outside of moving.\u00a0 Yes, you can&#8217;t guess the bottom &#8211; but I can also just wait till it starts going back up and it&#8217;ll be safer that trying to catch a falling knife.<\/p>\n<p>3.\u00a0<u>Job losses will continue.<\/u>\u00a0 Nothing in the bill will address the coming job losses &#8211; nothing can.\u00a0 Again, companies are looking at contracting markets &#8211; not expanding.\u00a0 They&#8217;re not hiring and won&#8217;t until a broader turnaround happens.\u00a0 Yes, immediate operating loans will become available again, but that&#8217;s just a small comfort.\u00a0 When times get tough &#8211; you have to cover your loans much more heavily &#8211; tying up cash.\u00a0 This will probably be the case for a year or two in the broad economy, but some sectors will be slower\/faster.  Expect job markets to shrink, and lots more layoffs in the immediate future.<\/p>\n<p>4. <u>Depression is a real word &#8211; and we may just get one.<\/u>\u00a0 I for one am still very convinced we&#8217;re in a 50\/50 shot for a depression &#8211; we&#8217;re already clearly recessing.\u00a0 Maybe not quite like the 1920&#8217;s, but it will be very bad times.\u00a0 Likely the worst any of us have seen in our lifetimes.\u00a0 Jobs are already starting to declining by 100,000&#8217;s per month (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.boston.com\/business\/articles\/2008\/10\/04\/pace_of_us_job_losses_picks_up\/\" target=\"_blank\">159,000 last month alone<\/a>) for the next few months at least.\u00a0 The question is where it stops &#8211; and I&#8217;m not hopeful at all.\u00a0 There is no immediate positives to turn things around.\u00a0 I predict an unemployment rate of about 9-10% by mid-next year.<br \/>\nI sure hope you&#8217;ve saved up some living cash.\u00a0 I feel exposed with just 9 months of living expenses saved right now.\u00a0 I wish I&#8217;d saved up 2 years worth personally.\u00a0 I&#8217;m cutting 90% of my discretionary spending and working towards that goal of 12-24 months of living expenses.<\/p>\n<p>5. <u>The days of easy credit and easy ownership are OVER (and SHOULD be)<\/u>\u00a0 Some car dealer was complaining on the radio the other day that folks that could get loans before couldn&#8217;t get them now.\u00a0 After giving the sob story, he revealed that folks used to get loans with a score of 625, but now need 640&#8217;s or higher.\u00a0 What?!\u00a0 That&#8217;s cause of us to run screaming for the doors?\u00a0 Scores below <a href=\"http:\/\/www.creditscoring.com\/pages\/bar.htm\" target=\"_blank\">640 *are* traditionally considered risky bets.<\/a>\u00a0 Lending bars are going to go up.\u00a0 This isn&#8217;t harsh &#8211; this is the way it always was until the free-wheeling of these last 10 years when we thought we could just throw this stuff out the doors and give loans to anyone.\u00a0 And look where that got us.\u00a0 There are good reasons folks have bad credit scores &#8211; and for the most part the law of averages always catches up to you.<\/p>\n<p>So &#8211; we just paid 700 billion for something that will help slow the decline, but probably cannot stop any meaningful adjustments that need to happen.\u00a0 Meanwhile folks will keep blaming government and corporate greed when they&#8217;re really not understanding the problem.\u00a0 Congress will continue to oblige with things that look like their helping on the surface to appease the masses &#8211; when the truth is NEITHER party will be able to stop the coming slides &#8211; just mitigate it.<\/p>\n<p>We&#8217;ve been in unhealthy waters for a long time, and it takes a long time to get out of them.\u00a0 Don&#8217;t believe me on any of this?\u00a0 This guy has a pretty good commentary: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bloomberg.com\/apps\/news?pid=20601039&amp;refer=columnist_weil&amp;sid=aMaWyNFImi4o\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/www.bloomberg.com\/apps\/news?pid=20601039&amp;refer=columnist_weil&amp;sid=aMaWyNFImi4o<\/a><\/p>\n<p>My plan of action:<br \/>\n-Conserve and save cash: rare eating out, going to concerts\/plays\/events, stay at home and watch more movies\/play video games.\u00a0 Read more books &#8211; anything entertainment that doesn&#8217;t cost money.<br \/>\n-Reduce all market exposure: I&#8217;ve sold all my stock &#8211; and did so about 6 months ago.\u00a0 I&#8217;ve never been happier.\u00a0 I&#8217;m not putting anything in the market until the knife sticks in the ground and stops falling.<br \/>\n-Save up as much living cash as possible.\u00a0 If you get laid off now, you better be prepared for a long, hard job search.\u00a0 Better save up a year&#8217;s worth of living expenses with a good bit of extra for job hunting costs.<br \/>\n-Don&#8217;t bother with any large purchases &#8211; unless they&#8217;re commodities &#8211; and fight for a good deal.\u00a0 I bought my car a few months ago because I expected inflation.\u00a0 With inflation &#8211; it&#8217;s better to buy *necessary* commodities such as cars, appliances, furniture.\u00a0 Because they&#8217;ll all be going up in price.<br \/>\nLook around for deals &#8211; take advantage of places that are in terrible shape.\u00a0 This economy is beating the midwest hard.\u00a0 I got a dealer in Indiana to drive my car 200 miles to a shipping place for no charge and gave me a 2-year bumper-to-bumper warranty for free.\u00a0 I didn&#8217;t even need to haggle.\u00a0 He also sold me the car at $3000 less than any dealer around here was asking.\u00a0 The $700 in shipping was more than worth buying it somewhere else.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Folks &#8211; you should be pissed off &#8211; we just got shafted in the largest hosing you will see in your lifetime &#8211; and it isn&#8217;t even at the worst yet. 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